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Al Klein wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
I can certainly write down Spanish spoken at my CW
speed of 13 wpm


Really? You listen to people speaking at 13 wpm? What are they on?
It sounds like good stuff.


Your objection was that I cannot write Spanish at 100 wpm.
I admit that but I know how to say "despacio" until they
slow down so I can write it down. Since I can copy CW
at 13 wpm, that seems to be a reasonable comparison.
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:06:47 GMT, Cecil Moore
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Al Klein wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
I can certainly write down Spanish spoken at my CW
speed of 13 wpm


Really? You listen to people speaking at 13 wpm? What are they on?
It sounds like good stuff.


Your objection was that I cannot write Spanish at 100 wpm.
I admit that but I know how to say "despacio" until they
slow down so I can write it down.


As I said in another post, try that in Turkish. Or Latvian. Or any
other language you don't know a single word of.

But in CW, it doesn't matter - you write the letters as they come,
whether you know what they mean or not. In the Navy, we had to read
what we had copied to know what it said - the CW came in your ear and
went out your fingers, you didn't pay attention to it. English? Who
knew, until you read it?
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Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:06:47 GMT, Cecil Moore
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Al Klein wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
I can certainly write down Spanish spoken at my CW
speed of 13 wpm

Really? You listen to people speaking at 13 wpm? What are they on?
It sounds like good stuff.


Your objection was that I cannot write Spanish at 100 wpm.
I admit that but I know how to say "despacio" until they
slow down so I can write it down.


As I said in another post, try that in Turkish. Or Latvian. Or any
other language you don't know a single word of.



But in CW, it doesn't matter - you write the letters as they come,
whether you know what they mean or not. In the Navy, we had to read
what we had copied to know what it said - the CW came in your ear and
went out your fingers, you didn't pay attention to it. English? Who
knew, until you read it?

if you get a message in turkish in most of the USA you still have a
useless message since where are yo going to find some that read the
lang

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Excuse me? If you are going to operate on a worldwide basis, you should be
well versed on world languages so you don't have that problem. Ask any
hi-speed op and they should agree.
The funny part being most all foreign ops know English and most US natives
are small appliance bulbs in a world of Xenon driving lights.
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Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:06:47 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
I can certainly write down Spanish spoken at my CW
speed of 13 wpm

Really? You listen to people speaking at 13 wpm? What are they on?
It sounds like good stuff.

Your objection was that I cannot write Spanish at 100 wpm.
I admit that but I know how to say "despacio" until they
slow down so I can write it down.


As I said in another post, try that in Turkish. Or Latvian. Or any
other language you don't know a single word of.



But in CW, it doesn't matter - you write the letters as they come,
whether you know what they mean or not. In the Navy, we had to read
what we had copied to know what it said - the CW came in your ear and
went out your fingers, you didn't pay attention to it. English? Who
knew, until you read it?

if you get a message in turkish in most of the USA you still have a
useless message since where are yo going to find some that read the
lang



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Al Klein wrote:
As I said in another post, try that in Turkish. Or Latvian. Or any
other language you don't know a single word of.


Sorry, you first challenged me to do that in Spanish.
I have proved beyond any doubt that I can do that.
Your need to suddenly change languages on me speaks
volumes.
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Al Klein wrote:
As I said in another post, try that in Turkish. Or Latvian. Or any
other language you don't know a single word of.


Sorry, you first challenged me to do that in Spanish.
I have proved beyond any doubt that I can do that.
Your need to suddenly change languages on me speaks
volumes.
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Cecil, my old friend. I'm disappointed that you've been drawn back into this cesspool.

From the glory days when you were the leading poster, and when substantive issues were discussed in deliberate if sometimes heated sessions, rrap has declined into a small, well-trained group of village idiots who have no function other than flinging excretory matter like mangy monkeys in a third rate carnival sideshow.

A shame, but it has to be said.

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:12:14 GMT, Cecil Moore
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Al Klein wrote:
As I said in another post, try that in Turkish. Or Latvian. Or any
other language you don't know a single word of.


Sorry, you first challenged me to do that in Spanish.


David's choice was Spanish. My choice was a language one couldn't
understand. Pay attention.

I have proved beyond any doubt that I can do that.
Your need to suddenly change languages on me speaks
volumes.


About your lack of content, yes.
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Al Klein wrote:
David's choice was Spanish. My choice was a language one couldn't
understand. Pay attention.


Sorry Al, here's what you said:
Even if you didn't know "ola" from
"adios", you can copy Spanish in CW and hand it to the recipient, who
can read it. Try that with a mic.


Your words, not David's. You implied *Spanish* couldn't
be copied with a mic by a non-Spanish speaking person.
I showed that it can be done.
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
David's choice was Spanish. My choice was a language one couldn't
understand. Pay attention.


Sorry Al, here's what you said:
Even if you didn't know "ola" from
"adios", you can copy Spanish in CW and hand it to the recipient, who
can read it. Try that with a mic.


Your words, not David's. You implied *Spanish* couldn't
be copied with a mic by a non-Spanish speaking person.
I showed that it can be done.
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I'll bet copying a message by voice from someone with the cyrillic
alphabet would end up a lot better results than copying the same
message with cw.

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I'll bet copying a message by voice from someone with the cyrillic
alphabet would end up a lot better results than copying the same
message with cw.


I would like to see Al try to copy Japanese CW.
Let's see, -.-. --.- would be "ni" "ne". Wonder
what he would do with .-.-- and --.-. ? :-)
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