In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Why You Don't Like Ham's Who Can't Accept Change.
From: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP)
Date: 8 Jan 2004 08:32:16 -0800

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

It's certainly not true in MY case, and just one more example of
how you feel free to take liberties with the truth.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...role-playing in a fantasy land is not "reality" nor
is it "truth."

There's only one "role-player" here, Lennie. Almost everyone
else here HAS an Amateur Radio license and PARTICIPATES in teh "Real
McCoy".

"teh ?" :-) Getting ANGRY again, are you?

There are several "McCoys" in electronics. Which one are you
referring to? Walter Brennan?

YOU are the outsider here.

This newsgroup isn't "amateur radio."

This newsgroup is all about lets-pretend fish-story-tellers trying
to put down lots of other amateurs. All amateurishly.

I'm all for eliminating the morse code test from any radio license
examination. That's all.

You are the one on an extended field trip into fantasyland.




I never claimed to be an engineer...But I did provide numerous
references from that job that proved you WRONG on numerous occassions.

Never once did you "prove" anything. Your imagination tells only
you that you were "right." Your imagination is WRONG.

Sure I did. Starting with simple assertions about the
"engineering community"...You said that there was "no such thing" and
I provided you with an immediate quote from one of the periodicals
that cited that very concept.

Where is this "engineering community" located? Have you been
there? :-)

Is it part of a Kibbutz? A collective farm? Does it have fancy
alphabets like ASME?

Where did you read this? Or, rather, who read it to you from some
printed reference? Your therapist?

Go for it, EX purchasing agent...

And you further went on to say "real engineers" didn't need/use
Amateur Radio...I gave you the callsigns of not only 13 engineers, but
three of them were PhD's.

Of course you did...right after you accepted the Presidential Medal
of Freedom for keeping Homeland Security safe through ham radio.

In other words, in your MIND, sweetums.

I'm still a Life Member of the IEEE and a former member of the ACM,
both professional organizations. None of their many, many
publications have had "news" about Ham Radio Saving The Day!

But, in your mind, you know "lots" of PhDs, and other smart folks
who all LOVE ham radio and cherish, honor, obey morse code....



I guess that had to hurt, knowing a "non-engineer" had access to
references that took a bite out of your rants...

"Hurt?" Only my sides from laughing. "References" from a weekly
newspaper from Podunk Hollow, TN, hardly counts for anything...

They were hardly from "Podunk Hollow", Lennie. They were
professional journals and periodicals.

Yeah, like a little few-page weekly is on par with the New York TIMES.

Paris Review on a bad day maybe. St. Louis Post-Dispatch or the
Washington Post would hardly have such, would they?
George didn't have such, neither did Time, Life, Newsweek. Maybe
it was in People (which I only read in dentist offices). TV Guide?

Not in IEEE Proceedings or the monthlies from ComSoc (Communication
Society, a group within IEEE). ComSoc wants me back as a member.

It wasn't in EDN, or Electronic Design, or RF Design, or Microwaves &
RF. I don't bother with EE Times anymore. Maybe PET (Power
Engineering Technology)?

(Squirm a bit harder, Scummy...)

Only if the mosquitos are biting. You WANT to but haven't gotten
any penetration yet...

Again with the "1930's" rant, Lennie?

Call it "transistorized 1930s," Stebe.

I call it your "1930's rant", Lennie...It's not truthful, nor
even representitive of anything associated with MODERN Amateur Radio.

Of course, Mr. PhD...MODERN amateur radio...extolling morse code
modes on HF as "always getting through when nothing else will..."

MODERN HF amateur radio: "What was good in the 1930s is still
good in 2000s!"

"Real ham radio is working DX on HF with CW."

Standards and Practices remain the same as 70 years ago.
Imagination of Public Service and self-serving glory are still the
same. If ARRL writes it, all MUST believe, for their words are
sacred.

No, they don't.

But if you NEED to believe that in order to sleep well at night,
please, be my guest...

:-) Not even close, Mr. Hotellier or Mr. Innkeeper. :-)

Quit trying to be a Host, sweetums. The only "host" you can be is
of a communicable disease.

Go get some therapy.

LHA

LHA
You are a bitter little person and do not play well with others.
Perhaps you need something of a higher level in you life. Try Jesus
instead of all of this negative stuff. So much energy needs to be
focused on getting you to Heaven instead of bothering these nice
people.
JEP


(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Why You Don't Like Ham's Who Can't Accept Change.
From: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP)
Date: 8 Jan 2004 08:32:16 -0800

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

It's certainly not true in MY case, and just one more example of
how you feel free to take liberties with the truth.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...role-playing in a fantasy land is not "reality" nor
is it "truth."

There's only one "role-player" here, Lennie. Almost everyone
else here HAS an Amateur Radio license and PARTICIPATES in teh "Real
McCoy".

"teh ?" :-) Getting ANGRY again, are you?

There are several "McCoys" in electronics. Which one are you
referring to? Walter Brennan?

YOU are the outsider here.

This newsgroup isn't "amateur radio."

This newsgroup is all about lets-pretend fish-story-tellers trying
to put down lots of other amateurs. All amateurishly.

I'm all for eliminating the morse code test from any radio license
examination. That's all.

You are the one on an extended field trip into fantasyland.




I never claimed to be an engineer...But I did provide numerous
references from that job that proved you WRONG on numerous occassions.

Never once did you "prove" anything. Your imagination tells only
you that you were "right." Your imagination is WRONG.

Sure I did. Starting with simple assertions about the
"engineering community"...You said that there was "no such thing" and
I provided you with an immediate quote from one of the periodicals
that cited that very concept.

Where is this "engineering community" located? Have you been
there? :-)

Is it part of a Kibbutz? A collective farm? Does it have fancy
alphabets like ASME?

Where did you read this? Or, rather, who read it to you from some
printed reference? Your therapist?

Go for it, EX purchasing agent...

And you further went on to say "real engineers" didn't need/use
Amateur Radio...I gave you the callsigns of not only 13 engineers, but
three of them were PhD's.

Of course you did...right after you accepted the Presidential Medal
of Freedom for keeping Homeland Security safe through ham radio.

In other words, in your MIND, sweetums.

I'm still a Life Member of the IEEE and a former member of the ACM,
both professional organizations. None of their many, many
publications have had "news" about Ham Radio Saving The Day!

But, in your mind, you know "lots" of PhDs, and other smart folks
who all LOVE ham radio and cherish, honor, obey morse code....



I guess that had to hurt, knowing a "non-engineer" had access to
references that took a bite out of your rants...

"Hurt?" Only my sides from laughing. "References" from a weekly
newspaper from Podunk Hollow, TN, hardly counts for anything...

They were hardly from "Podunk Hollow", Lennie. They were
professional journals and periodicals.

Yeah, like a little few-page weekly is on par with the New York TIMES.

Paris Review on a bad day maybe. St. Louis Post-Dispatch or the
Washington Post would hardly have such, would they?
George didn't have such, neither did Time, Life, Newsweek. Maybe
it was in People (which I only read in dentist offices). TV Guide?

Not in IEEE Proceedings or the monthlies from ComSoc (Communication
Society, a group within IEEE). ComSoc wants me back as a member.

It wasn't in EDN, or Electronic Design, or RF Design, or Microwaves &
RF. I don't bother with EE Times anymore. Maybe PET (Power
Engineering Technology)?

(Squirm a bit harder, Scummy...)

Only if the mosquitos are biting. You WANT to but haven't gotten
any penetration yet...

Again with the "1930's" rant, Lennie?

Call it "transistorized 1930s," Stebe.

I call it your "1930's rant", Lennie...It's not truthful, nor
even representitive of anything associated with MODERN Amateur Radio.

Of course, Mr. PhD...MODERN amateur radio...extolling morse code
modes on HF as "always getting through when nothing else will..."

MODERN HF amateur radio: "What was good in the 1930s is still
good in 2000s!"

"Real ham radio is working DX on HF with CW."

Standards and Practices remain the same as 70 years ago.
Imagination of Public Service and self-serving glory are still the
same. If ARRL writes it, all MUST believe, for their words are
sacred.

No, they don't.

But if you NEED to believe that in order to sleep well at night,
please, be my guest...

:-) Not even close, Mr. Hotellier or Mr. Innkeeper. :-)

Quit trying to be a Host, sweetums. The only "host" you can be is
of a communicable disease.

Go get some therapy.

LHA

In article ,
(JEP) writes:

LHA
You are a bitter little person and do not play well with others.

Stebe, quit trying to be somebody else. :-)

...and quit stealing phrases, sweetums, you get negative points
for plagiarism.

Perhaps you need something of a higher level in you life.

"Higher level?" Heck and darn, the NOISE level in here is already
too high!

Try Jesus instead of all of this negative stuff.

Sounds good but I already did that a long time ago.

This morning I eliminated the middleman and talked directly to
God. God must have been rather busy but his answering
machine worked...I got this wonderful posting from an anonymous
twit to liven my day! :-)

So much energy needs to be
focused on getting you to Heaven instead of bothering these nice people.

You flip out or get some bad yellow?

"Nice people?!?" HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get some help sweetums. Get a name while you're at it...

WMD





JEP

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(JEP) writes:

LHA
You are a bitter little person and do not play well with others.

Stebe, quit trying to be somebody else.

Sorry...not me...read the headers, Your Putziness.

...and quit stealing phrases, sweetums, you get negative points
for plagiarism.

You mean I can't follow in your footsteps, Lennie? Maybe I can
get them to UN-defunct "Ham Radio" and change all your plagerized
by-lines to my name...?!?!

Perhaps you need something of a higher level in you life.

"Higher level?" Heck and darn, the NOISE level in here is already
too high!

Try Jesus instead of all of this negative stuff.

Sounds good but I already did that a long time ago.

Try again. You missed the mark.

This morning I eliminated the middleman and talked directly to
God. God must have been rather busy but his answering
machine worked...I got this wonderful posting from an anonymous
twit to liven my day!

Hearing voices, are you Lennie?

Get some help sweetums. Get a name while you're at it...

Speaking of "get some help", Lennie...Guess you haven't opened up
any of Mrs. Putz's books yet, eh?

Steve

Len Over 21 wrote:

This newsgroup is all about lets-pretend fish-story-tellers trying
to put down lots of other amateurs. All amateurishly.

You seem confused again, old timer. While you tell your fish stories
and put down radio amateurs, you aren't in fact a radio amateur.

I'm all for eliminating the morse code test from any radio license
examination. That's all.

"Go for it, EX purchasing agent..."

"Of course you did...right after you accepted the Presidential Medal
of Freedom for keeping Homeland Security safe through ham radio."

"Yeah, like a little few-page weekly is on par with the New York
TIMES."

"MODERN HF amateur radio: 'What was good in the 1930s is still
good in 2000s!'"

"Real ham radio is working DX on HF with CW."

"Quit trying to be a Host, sweetums. The only "host" you can be is
of a communicable disease."

"Go get some therapy."

Yep, it appears quite evident from the quoted material just from one of
your posts, Len. You just want to eliminate a code test.

Dave K8MN

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

This newsgroup is all about lets-pretend fish-story-tellers trying
to put down lots of other amateurs. All amateurishly.

You seem confused again, old timer. While you tell your fish stories
and put down radio amateurs, you aren't in fact a radio amateur.

I'm all for eliminating the morse code test from any radio license
examination. That's all.

"Go for it, EX purchasing agent..."

"Of course you did...right after you accepted the Presidential Medal
of Freedom for keeping Homeland Security safe through ham radio."

"Yeah, like a little few-page weekly is on par with the New York
TIMES."

"MODERN HF amateur radio: 'What was good in the 1930s is still
good in 2000s!'"

"Real ham radio is working DX on HF with CW."

"Quit trying to be a Host, sweetums. The only "host" you can be is
of a communicable disease."

"Go get some therapy."

Yep, it appears quite evident from the quoted material just from one of
your posts, Len. You just want to eliminate a code test.

Dave,

Remember this gem of an example of "civil debate" from the same author as the
above:

"Shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel. Learn to READ English."

(October 28, 2003)

N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

"Shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel. Learn to READ English."

I remember that one well. It is simply another fine example of Len's
civil debate on the elimination of morse testing in amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

In article ,
(Expletive Deleted) writes:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

This newsgroup is all about lets-pretend fish-story-tellers trying
to put down lots of other amateurs. All amateurishly.

You seem confused again, old timer. While you tell your fish stories
and put down radio amateurs, you aren't in fact a radio amateur.

I'm all for eliminating the morse code test from any radio license
examination. That's all.

"Go for it, EX purchasing agent..."

"Of course you did...right after you accepted the Presidential Medal
of Freedom for keeping Homeland Security safe through ham radio."

"Yeah, like a little few-page weekly is on par with the New York
TIMES."

"MODERN HF amateur radio: 'What was good in the 1930s is still
good in 2000s!'"

"Real ham radio is working DX on HF with CW."

"Quit trying to be a Host, sweetums. The only "host" you can be is
of a communicable disease."

"Go get some therapy."

Yep, it appears quite evident from the quoted material just from one of
your posts, Len. You just want to eliminate a code test.

Dave,

Remember this gem of an example of "civil debate" from the same author as the
above:

"Shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel. Learn to READ English."

(October 28, 2003)

Yes, Your Emminence, please ALSO remind others of that wonderful
group of expletives from a Model Amateur Extra such as -

"PUTZ!" "Your scumminess" "Scumbag"

And other assorted hateful words of anger.

Let's not forget that other gem that seemed to "write itself,"
"LANDFILL."

Some elitist pro-coders are so righteous and noble that others
are simply a dumping ground for their garbage?

"Civil debate."

On a scale of 0 through 10, such AMATEUR RADIO activity is good
for a -20.

Please keep all that in mind as you write up the Holy Orders of the
Day, your Emminence.

LHA / WMD

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

On a scale of 0 through 10, such AMATEUR RADIO activity is good
for a -20.

I think this pretty well sums up Lennie's appreication of Amateur
Radio, and also puts holes in recent assertions in other threads in
which he says what a wonderful hobby Amateur Radio is...We never can
figure out WHICH face Lennie has on today...

Steve, K4YZ

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

This newsgroup is all about lets-pretend fish-story-tellers trying
to put down lots of other amateurs. All amateurishly.

You seem confused again, old timer. While you tell your fish stories
and put down radio amateurs, you aren't in fact a radio amateur.

And you are not God...despite your claims to same...


I'm all for eliminating the morse code test from any radio license
examination. That's all.

"Go for it, EX purchasing agent..."

"Of course you did...right after you accepted the Presidential Medal
of Freedom for keeping Homeland Security safe through ham radio."

"Yeah, like a little few-page weekly is on par with the New York
TIMES."

"MODERN HF amateur radio: 'What was good in the 1930s is still
good in 2000s!'"

"Real ham radio is working DX on HF with CW."

"Quit trying to be a Host, sweetums. The only "host" you can be is
of a communicable disease."

"Go get some therapy."

Yep, it appears quite evident from the quoted material just from one of
your posts, Len. You just want to eliminate a code test.

I'd like to concentrate on the SUBJECTS instead of your incessant
prussian arrogant order-giving, Herr Robust.

If you feel that anyone you don't approve of is offensive to you,
your holiness, feel free to have their ISP get rid of their account
or at least forbid them to post in this free, open, unmoderated
newsgroup. Or just skip over the post.

Do you need to change the prescription in your monocle again,
Herr Robust? You can't continue to do an impression of a modern
prussian officer without it...go rent a DVD with Otto Preminger
in "Stalag 17" and study it some more.

LHA / WMD