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K0HB:
Yes, well, enigmas which run in circles, that is all there is... John On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:12:40 +0000, KØHB wrote: "John Smith" wrote In fact, it was this professor who first told me to look either for angels or aliens--before he finally settled on the angels (intelligence NOT from a mud puddle as you could ever find upon an earth-like planet)... The only thing that I can think of which is more impossible to believe than "mud became man" is angels that just "were". 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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HHAE:
There you have it. One of the simplest, most ridiculous things I have ever seen, if you don't like the message--attack the messenger... .... and he never seems to tire of the same simple game! John On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:28:59 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote: wrote: From: "K4YZ" on Sat 27 Aug 2005 02:15 Go ahead...let's see what excuse or rationalization you spin up for this... Frank has presented some links for his proof. Frank's words ring true. YOURS are just vague generalities, no specifics, sound like they've been cribbed from books, movies, and TV shows. Quit trying to point fingers at others, Dudly. Remember that every time you point a finger at someone there are four other fingers of yours pointing right back at YOU. As noted on numerous occassions, Steve is long on demands, but very, very short on answers. When a question comes his way, he turns it into an attack, usually a personal attack. Then he wonders why everyone thinks he's nuts. |
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From: Frank Gilliland on Sat 27 Aug 2005 19:44
On 26 Aug 2005 11:58:57 -0700, " wrote in s.com: From: on Fri 26 Aug 2005 06:22 K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm wrote: From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: If fact, Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type. I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare) didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were assigned. But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place? Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true! Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?" The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is bad manners and a propensity to deceive. The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on your military service lies. Tsk. The stealers of valor cry foul when their stealing is stolen. Dudly has NO PROOF whatsoever of his "forward area" action. NONE. Aircraft ground maintenance personnel are NOT in any "forward area." If one is NOT in a "forward area," one is in the "rear area." Such as an Okinawa MARS station where Dudly claimed to be "Assistant NCOIC." [wow...lots of responsibility there...in a NON-commo role if he was really there...MARS was never a part of the Defense Communications System] Dudly has never referred to any common small-unit land force radio by nomenclature or familiar name. Neither has he done so for any common avionics radio of the 1974-1992 period. That is unthinkable for anyone who has really been IN the military involved in radio communications of any kind. Not only that, but when presented with -partial- information he can't even fill in the blanks; i.e, VINSON, discharge upgrades, etc. Frank, I gotta say I loved your question about "serving under Colonel Vinson!" One of the gems of this newsgroup in my opinion! :-) Ergo, Dudly NEVER DID what he claimed. Dudly has presented NO PROOF of this claimed military service. He has presented nothing but verbal generalities that can be gleaned from publications or entertainment shows. Anyone truly proud to have served will have some sort of documentation which can be scanned and presented for proof. Dog tags can be scanned. http://www.icehouse.net/wirenut/dogtag.jpg I downloaded your previous three images. Now I know what a "bluenose" is! :-) Please tell me what a "TT" is...it is unfamiliar to one who has never been to the Middle East. Dudly says all who challenge him on his military claims should "call the VA [Veteran's Administration]." The VA will not reveal details to non-familiy members and must have assurance that a requestor is legitimate. The VA cannot reveal details due to a federal law that is almost three decades old. OVER three decades old: The Privacy Act of 1974. Thank you, correction noted. I seem to recall an amendment or addition to that in 1976...but that may be my confusion with several pieces of legislation done in 1976 such as a major revision of the Copyright Laws and the Code of Etiquette on The Flag. :-( The same is true for NARA, the National Archives and Records Administration, which has a large records archive in St. Louis, MO. NARA has a website which contains the form required to request details...the filled-in form can be e-mailed for personal data, but must be sent surface mail for full disclosure. The only logical conclusion is that Dudly's claims to military service are a FRAUD, a fabrication, a LIE. In his case, a "rear area" is what he has been giving us. Well, any proof he offers now will need to be pretty damn convincing. If Dudly actually has any "proof" now and it is convincing, he is then stuck with years of his insulting and demeaning behavior in here, all nicely archived in Google. He will be NO better off "with proof." As is, I call him a POSEUR, a FRAUD, a SNOW JOBBER who wants others to believe him even though he hasn't got a shred of evidence to present for his proof. |
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From: John Smith on Sat 27 Aug 2005 22:29
Len: Just answer me one thing. Is it just me who sees "them" constructing control-freak rules which work at 180 degrees opposite anything conductive to experimentation and research in new protocols, equip, methods, etc? Not just you, John, but thousands are realizing it. They are speaking up on it in regards to WT Docket 05-235. They began seeing all the wool pulled over their eyes back in the 1980s when the no-code-test movement began in earnest among amateurs. I mean these rules are beginning to look a bit like a religious cults', and deal with the proper form, how to conduct yourself, the status quo, the "amateur class system", proper worship of "Radio Gods", belief systems, etc.... I've tried to show that years ago, only to be met with extreme resistance by the Believers, the acolytes serving the Church of St. Hiram, the self-styled self-propelled Heroes of the Hams. THEY claim territorial imperative. THEY are da boyz in da hood ready to gang-bang anyone intruding on their sacred turf and changing it. If so, I might try a few of those lotus-blossoms myself! This chit gets a bit old fast! Believers can't be turned off by logic or reasoning. The only answer is prolonged deprogramming to remove the last vestige of their brain-washing suds. |
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From: on Aug 28, 8:18 am
Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: Just as they have not permitted you to comment about "amateur" radio because you hold no license, NoServers may not comment about the military. Hold on, Sparky. Len has commented here at great length and on many, many occasions. [...and I will continue to do so, regardless of control freaks who attempt to silence those against them...] And what has Jim's response been to Len's comments? It has been quite varied and quite mild considering Len's typical insulting demeanor. Oh, my! "typical insulting demeanor?" Davie is above such things? Not by all the archives in Google! :-) What Jim hasn't done is to prevent or attempt to prevent Len from making those comments. Right now, there's not a damn thing Jimmie can do about it... The PCTA, including Jim Miccolis/N2EY, immediately set upon discrediting Len's comments and opinions. In the end, if they cannot lay waste to Len's comments with rational argument(s), they claim that his opinions are simply no good because Len isn't a ham. David Heil/K8MN is a primary culprit in that tactic, but Jim has used it as well. The PCTA have been bound and determined to keep morse code purity in U.S. amateur radio IN ANY WAY THEY CAN...since back in the 1990s and led by Jim Kehler, KH2D, an avowed PCTA. [sorry, Brian, I know you like Kehler, but he was NOT kind, gracious, or anything else civil to me...as old archives show] Heil's "argument" is that NO ONE UNLICENSED CAN POSSIBLY TALK ANYTHING ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO POLICY. That is patently FALSE. The FCC does not require any staff or Commissioners to hold amateur radio license grants in order to REGULATE and ENFORCE U.S. amateur radio. There is NO SUCH PROVISO forbidding U.S. citizens from discussing ANY federal regulations or laws. Heil says one MUST have a license, be a "participant" in amateur radio in order to speak about it in any way. That is still FALSE. Such would forbid newcomers from doing anything priod to any test, to remain silent, to blindly accept anything about law, regulation, or even "moral-ethical" issues. Heil wants SHEEP who blindly accept HIS control/dictates/commands. Diplomatic Dave seems to have completely MISSED what Department of State uses as its primary tool in carrying out U.S. foreign policy: Diplomacy. Dave is the antithesis of this as a demanding dictator, a self-styled self-propelled tyrant who forbids any opposite opinions from his. Diplomatic Dave would have us ALL throw out the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution because HE doesn't like opinions contrary to his! It's no wonder that U.S. amateur radio is stagnating in the number of licensed amateurs with EXAMPLES of the "highest rank" in amateurdom such as Heil. |
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wrote [sorry, Brian, I know you like Kehler, but he was NOT kind, gracious, or anything else civil to me...as old archives show] That's why a lot of folks like him. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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From: Dave Heil on Aug 28, 9:04 am
wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm K4YZ wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: It has been quite varied and quite mild considering Len's typical insulting demeanor. What Jim hasn't done is to prevent or attempt to prevent Len from making those comments. The PCTA, including Jim Miccolis/N2EY, immediately set upon discrediting Len's comments and opinions. Correct. Questioning or discrediting is not what you claimed. What you said was that Len wasn't permitted to comment. You were incorrect. Tsk, tsk, tsk...Heil sails the river denial again. In the end, if they cannot lay waste to Len's comments with rational argument(s)... I've seen any number of Len's comments made to look like the product of one who has little experience. I have "little experience" in toadying up to self-styled "masters of radio" who pretend to know the answers. I have LOTS of experience in being around such. You are just one more in a long line of self-assumed masters of radio. ...they claim that his opinions are simply no good because Len isn't a ham. Sometimes Len's opinions are no good because they are issued because he has no experience in amateur radio. "No experience?" Is amateur radio different from all other radio? Tsk, tsk. NO. ALL radio is subject to the SAME physical laws. Only MAN-MADE laws differentiate "amateur radio" from all other radio. Heil has NO EXPERIENCE in regulating radio, of controlling those MAN-MADE laws. Ergo, Heil has NO EXPERIENCE in law-making policy concerning radio! To repeat: NOTHING in the laws establishing the FCC require any staffer or Commissioner to hold an amateur radio license grant in order to REGULATE U.S. amateur radio. By Heil's reasoning, the FCC has "no experience" in regulating amateur radio. Obviously it does. Just as obviously, Heil's personal opinion is invalid in reality. Sometimes his opinions are no good because they are the rantings of a geezer with an ax to grind. "Geezer?" "Axe?" :-) That from a former employee of the U.S. government supposedly involved in "diplomacy" who demands that all newcomers to amateur radio test for skill in a 161-year-old primitive communications code? "Geezer:" Dictionary definition is "Noun, slang, an eccentric olf man." Tsk, tsk, that applies to HEIL more than I. :-) Heil is NO youth. His youth was left behind many years ago. Heil keeps defending the "necessity" to test for morse code skill for an amateur radio license. The morse code test for an amateur radio license has NEVER left U.S. amateur radio regulations...a length of time longer than Heil has been alive (71 years). Heil has shown NO valid reasons to retain the code test in U.S. regulations; his main comments on that is to act uncivilly to all who propose eliminating that code test. That fits "eccentric" far more than my wishes to eliminate the OLD, unnecessary morse code test. Heil fits the "geezer with a (blunt) axe" to grind far better than I. He refuses any change, will not give in to progress in regulations. Often, he makes factual errors and there have been numerous times when he deliberately fabricates. Nonsense. I do not "often make factual errors." Google archives will show that. I fabricate electronic hardware sometimes. Some of that involves radio. I fabricate other physical things as well. What I do NOT fabricate is specious, illogical, emotional DEMANDS that ALL must follow Heil's dictates in amateur radio regulation changes (or "unchanges" in Heil's apparent viewpoint). I have NOT "fabricated" what I've said about beginning in HF radio communications in (what I term) the "Big Leagues of Radio" over a half century ago. I have NOT "fabricated" my personal references in experience in radio. They are still alive and licensed radio amateurs. I have NOT "fabricated" any of my work experience, have listed my past employers in here. Anyone can check those out independently. Obviously one other in here HAS done considerable "fabrication." I need NOT "fabricate" things with deliberate omissions of facts in order to make a point...nor do I need to "fabricate" opinions of others who deliberately try to demean, denigrate, or insult my person just because I have opinions different to them. I need only refer to the overall history of radio-electronics available to all who care to look. Not like the ARRL deliberately leaving out other radio services activities in attempting to "prove" that amateurs "pioneered all radio." David Heil/K8MN is a primary culprit in that tactic, but Jim has used it as well. Oh no, I've by no means been "a primary culprit", but I have participated over a period of years. 4,022 posts as of 25 August 2005 according to Google archives. Len isn't involved in amateur radio. Neither are any FCC staffers or Commissioners required to have amateur radio license grants in order to REGULATE and ENFORCE U.S. amateur radio. Sunnuvagun! He wraps himself in bunting and writes of his Constitutional rights of free speech and to petition his government. I wear rather conventional clothing and eschew "bunting." Yes, I am a citizen of the United States of America and choose to exercise my RIGHTS (guaranteed under the Consitution) as I see fit. Heil has a "problem" with that? Well, he has done those things. Amazing observation. Heil has "monitored" ALL of my actions? He has a dossiere of what I have done? [wouldn't put it past a control-freak to do that kind of "stalking"] Nothing on this planet can prevent me from lauging at him or ridiculing him or his ideas. Nothing in this universe can prevent ME from laughing right back at the ultra-conservative geezer called Heil...and exposing his dictatorial viewpoints on who is "allowed to express themselves" in this free society. Len writes of being denigrated or insulted by those who do not agree with his him but he often insults and denigrates those who have the opposite point of view. Poor baby, don't like it when return fire is stronger than your attempted character assassination shootings at me? :-) He is quick to tell others that they are not discussing amateur radio policy, then he goes on a multi-post rant having everything to do with personalities and nothing to do with amateur radio. WT Docket 05-235 (now before the FCC and all citizens) is about nothing else but the morse code test for a U.S. amateur radio license. Is discussion of that "ranting?" I think not. Discussion, debate, argument about a test for GETTING INTO U.S. amateur radio is "ranting?" When it comes to specious, invalid, illogical, emotional, subjective "reasons" for its retention IS "ranting." By the PCTA. The NCTA want to OPEN UP U.S. amateur radio, to all who care to get into it, NOT restrict entry by some old, outmoded, dictatorial and arbitrary barriers which the FCC themselves have said is unneccessary. Heil keeps on RANTING that those old, outmoded, dictatorial, arbitrary reasons are "valid" yet has presented NO proof to qualify them. All Heil has presented are a number of personal insults directed to those who oppose him, as below: You, of course, are Len's little electrolytic acolyte. I do not know Brian Burke personally. We live 2000+ miles apart. By all his words in here, Brian Burke has demonstrated that he is HIS OWN MAN, not some "acolyte" or "little electrolyte." You insult him and myself in saying he is some kind of "acolyte" to my thinking. FREEDOM is not a "cult." It is the basis for the creation and continuation of the United States of America. That Brian and I SHARE THE SAME VIEWPOINT of yourself is due to YOUR words. You do not regulate U.S. amateur radio, have never been in any position to do so. All you have done is to keep an amateur radio license grant for four decades. Many others have done so for longer. I repeat once again: The FCC does NOT require any staffer or Commissioner to hold an amateur radio license grant in order to REGULATE and ENFORCE U.S. amateur radio. YOU are NOT a regulator or enforcer of U.S. amateur radio; only a wannabee dictator who has no more power than any other U.S. citizen, licensed or unlicensed. Try to adjust to that very real FACT. |
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From: K0HB on Aug 28, 1:31 pm
wrote [sorry, Brian, I know you like Kehler, but he was NOT kind, gracious, or anything else civil to me...as old archives show] That's why a lot of folks like him. Absolutely...even when he wrote the following: "HAM RADIO OPERATORS ARE INTROVERTS - In most cases, FACT. It's much easier to speak your mind on the 75 meter Goober net than it is to stand up in front of a group of real people and do it. Meeting a ham in person whom you've talked to on the air for a long time is usually an eye opening (and sometimes heart breaking) experience. Most times you'll find that the mental image you've created of a person you haven't met gets shattered when you do finally meet them. If you've been talking to John Wayne on the radio and you're finally going to meet him at the flea market, don't get your hopes up. In years gone by, hams fell into a few well known categories - A1 Ops, Lids, Kids, and Space Cadets. Today those categories have changed. Most hams can be classified into one of three commonly found groups - Freaks, Jerks, and Wierdos." [quoted direct from some beloved opinion at http://kh2d.net] So, Hans, which one are you? Freak, Jerk, or Weirdo? :-) |
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