Frank of Silliland wrote:
On 28 Aug 2005 05:54:46 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank of Silliland wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:23:00 GMT, Dave Heil wrote
in et:

Okay. Maybe you're a slow learner or perhaps you just have no sense of
remorse. You told us that you weren't a model Marine.

Feel free to speculate all you want about my service.


Quite the contrary, Dudly: my proficiency marks were consistently
high; it was my conduct marks that took a couple nose-dives.

You were STILL incompetent.

COMPETENCY as a Marine is more than mastering the technical
aspects of your MOS.

Huge snip.

So far you've "proved" nothing except that YOUR trivia isn't
necessarilly someone elses, and even then you've so grossly discredited
yourself as to make ANY argument lost.


Wrong again, Dudly. Neither of my disciplinary actions resulted in my
discharge. I fulfilled the full term of my contract. But after two
court-martials...(SNIP)

TWO COURT MARTIALS...?!?!

IN ONE ENLSITMENT...?!?!?!

I didn't get ONE "Office Hours" IN NEARLY TWO decades of service!

(UNSNIP)...my conduct marks were just one tenth of a point too low
for an honorable discharge so I got a "General under Honorable". And
here is where I know that your claim to have upgraded your discharge
is bull#### -- because I -did- upgrade my discharge. (Warning: long
story.....)

There's nothing "bull####", Frankie, except YOUR suggestion that
you're some sort of valid point of reference as to what constitutes
having "served" in the Marines or not.

Back in early '85 I injured my knee on a forced march....(SNIP)

What happened to YOU happened to YOU, and is not indicative of how
EVERY Marine's case is handled, Frankie...Mine included.

Big snip of sob story.

Now a medical discharge is also a "general under honorable" discharge.

My original says "HONORABLE."

No qualifiers.

Sorry yours was otherwise.

So all those claims of yours about your discharge are completely
bogus, Dudly. They have absolutely no foundation in reality.

What has "no foundation in reality" is any suggestion that you are
a competent, reliable source of "corporate knowledge" on the Marine
Corps other than being a one-tour, sick-bay-commando discipline
problem.

Loser. Hoser. Poser.


Coming from a retired Marine Corps gunny, that's pathetic.

Sorry, Frankie.

I "call's em as I see's em"...

You come in here whipping up a storm making claims of who is a
"valid" Marine and who isn't, and you turn out to be the aforementioned
one-tour, sick-bay-commando discipline problem.

If you are
going to continue this "truth-by-repitition" charade then at least get
someone to ghost-write your posts so you don't sound like a 3rd grade
dropout.

"repetition"

And if you'e going to come at me with assertions of what is and
isn't "The Real Marine Corps", at least have the decency of having
Honorably served that same Marine Corps. YOU DIDN'T. You made a
PROMISE when you enlisted and you FAILED to keep up your end of the
bargain. Not once, but twice, by your own admission.

Loser.

Steve, K4YZ

On 29 Aug 2005 07:50:39 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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And if you'e going to come at me with assertions of what is and
isn't "The Real Marine Corps", at least have the decency of having
Honorably served that same Marine Corps. YOU DIDN'T. You made a
PROMISE when you enlisted and you FAILED to keep up your end of the
bargain. Not once, but twice, by your own admission.


Yes, by my own admission. Yes, I could have walked right up to the
commanding General, but I didn't. I chose a different course of action
based on the circumstances. If you had ever been in a grunt unit you
would understand those circumstances, but you weren't so don't try.

But this discussion isn't about me, Dudly -- it's about YOU and the
bogus claims you have made about your service (if you even served at
all).







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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 29 Aug 2005 07:50:39 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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snip
And if you'e going to come at me with assertions of what is and
isn't "The Real Marine Corps", at least have the decency of having
Honorably served that same Marine Corps. YOU DIDN'T. You made a
PROMISE when you enlisted and you FAILED to keep up your end of the
bargain. Not once, but twice, by your own admission.


Yes, by my own admission. Yes, I could have walked right up to the
commanding General, but I didn't. I chose a different course of action
based on the circumstances. If you had ever been in a grunt unit you
would understand those circumstances, but you weren't so don't try.

But this discussion isn't about me, Dudly -- it's about YOU and the
bogus claims you have made about your service (if you even served at
all).

Sorry, Frankie of Silliland..it IS about you.

You "served" 1/4th as long as I did and got court martialed twice.
Then you want to come in here throwing your "reputation" around to try
and diminish MY service.

Sorry, putz...You don't add up to the top of my jump boots.

Steve, K4YZ

On 30 Aug 2005 02:05:50 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 29 Aug 2005 07:50:39 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

snip
And if you'e going to come at me with assertions of what is and
isn't "The Real Marine Corps", at least have the decency of having
Honorably served that same Marine Corps. YOU DIDN'T. You made a
PROMISE when you enlisted and you FAILED to keep up your end of the
bargain. Not once, but twice, by your own admission.


Yes, by my own admission. Yes, I could have walked right up to the
commanding General, but I didn't. I chose a different course of action
based on the circumstances. If you had ever been in a grunt unit you
would understand those circumstances, but you weren't so don't try.

But this discussion isn't about me, Dudly -- it's about YOU and the
bogus claims you have made about your service (if you even served at
all).

Sorry, Frankie of Silliland..it IS about you.


I see you made your choice.


You "served" 1/4th as long as I did


You still haven't proven that you served -at all-!


and got court martialed twice.


"Court martialed" isn't even a word, Dudly.


Then you want to come in here throwing your "reputation" around


Wrong. I challenged you with facts. Once again, Dudly, it's not about
me -or- my "reputation" whether be it good -or- bad.


to try
and diminish MY service.


You haven't provided -any- proof that you served -at all-! Nor have
you described anything about your service that could be "diminished",
except for your few claims that resulted in you "diminishing" yourself
because they were contradicted by facts. It was YOU that lied about
your "service" -- don't blame me for the consequences of your lies.


Sorry, putz...You don't add up to the top of my jump boots.


"Jump boots"? LOL!








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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 30 Aug 2005 02:05:50 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 29 Aug 2005 07:50:39 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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snip
And if you'e going to come at me with assertions of what is and
isn't "The Real Marine Corps", at least have the decency of having
Honorably served that same Marine Corps. YOU DIDN'T. You made a
PROMISE when you enlisted and you FAILED to keep up your end of the
bargain. Not once, but twice, by your own admission.


Yes, by my own admission. Yes, I could have walked right up to the
commanding General, but I didn't. I chose a different course of action
based on the circumstances. If you had ever been in a grunt unit you
would understand those circumstances, but you weren't so don't try.

But this discussion isn't about me, Dudly -- it's about YOU and the
bogus claims you have made about your service (if you even served at
all).

Sorry, Frankie of Silliland..it IS about you.

I see you made your choice.

No...YOU did.

You "served" 1/4th as long as I did

You still haven't proven that you served -at all-!

I missed the part where a disgraced ex-serviceman had any
"authority" to demand anything, Frankie...

and got court martialed twice.

"Court martialed" isn't even a word, Dudly.

Yet it's a common term in both military and civilian conversation,
Frankie.

Then you want to come in here throwing your "reputation" around

Wrong. I challenged you with facts. Once again, Dudly, it's not about
me -or- my "reputation" whether be it good -or- bad.

No, you have NOT "challenged (me) with facts"...

You've made allegations and barroom taunts meant only to salve your
disgraced ego.

to try
and diminish MY service.


You haven't provided -any- proof that you served -at all-!

I still haven't found the part that says I owe you one, Frankie.

Nor have
you described anything about your service that could be "diminished",
except for your few claims that resulted in you "diminishing" yourself
because they were contradicted by facts. It was YOU that lied about
your "service" -- don't blame me for the consequences of your lies.

I've not lied.

Sorry, putz...You don't add up to the top of my jump boots.

"Jump boots"? LOL!

I didn't designate the nomenclature, Frankie.

Steve, K4YZ

On 30 Aug 2005 02:39:54 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 30 Aug 2005 02:05:50 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 29 Aug 2005 07:50:39 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

snip
And if you'e going to come at me with assertions of what is and
isn't "The Real Marine Corps", at least have the decency of having
Honorably served that same Marine Corps. YOU DIDN'T. You made a
PROMISE when you enlisted and you FAILED to keep up your end of the
bargain. Not once, but twice, by your own admission.


Yes, by my own admission. Yes, I could have walked right up to the
commanding General, but I didn't. I chose a different course of action
based on the circumstances. If you had ever been in a grunt unit you
would understand those circumstances, but you weren't so don't try.

But this discussion isn't about me, Dudly -- it's about YOU and the
bogus claims you have made about your service (if you even served at
all).

Sorry, Frankie of Silliland..it IS about you.

I see you made your choice.

No...YOU did.


You make your own choices, Dudly. Don't blame me for the consequences
of those decisions.


You "served" 1/4th as long as I did

You still haven't proven that you served -at all-!

I missed the part where a disgraced ex-serviceman had any
"authority" to demand anything, Frankie...


Who's "demanding", Dudly? I simply gave you a choice.


and got court martialed twice.

"Court martialed" isn't even a word, Dudly.

Yet it's a common term in both military and civilian conversation,
Frankie.


By golly, you're right -- except that it's spelled "court-martialled".


Then you want to come in here throwing your "reputation" around

Wrong. I challenged you with facts. Once again, Dudly, it's not about
me -or- my "reputation" whether be it good -or- bad.

No, you have NOT "challenged (me) with facts"...


Now you're in denial. Your sickness runs deep.


You've made allegations and barroom taunts meant only to salve your
disgraced ego.


You like to refer to the bars quite a bit..... do you spend a lot of
time at the bars, Dudly?


to try
and diminish MY service.


You haven't provided -any- proof that you served -at all-!

I still haven't found the part that says I owe you one, Frankie.


That's because I said nothing of the sort. Got any excuses that aren't
characteristic of someone trying to evade the truth?


Nor have
you described anything about your service that could be "diminished",
except for your few claims that resulted in you "diminishing" yourself
because they were contradicted by facts. It was YOU that lied about
your "service" -- don't blame me for the consequences of your lies.

I've not lied.


Prove it.


Sorry, putz...You don't add up to the top of my jump boots.

"Jump boots"? LOL!

I didn't designate the nomenclature, Frankie.


Well, now we know what you -didn't- do in the USMC.








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K4YZ wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 30 Aug 2005 02:05:50 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in

to try
and diminish MY service.

You haven't provided -any- proof that you served -at all-!

I still haven't found the part that says I owe you one, Frankie.


RE-4YZ is loooooong on demands, short on answers. Everyone owes Steve
proof. Steve owes nothing.